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		<title>by: hiutopor</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-20582</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi 
 
Very interesting information! Thanks! 
 
Bye</description>
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<p>Very interesting information! Thanks! </p>
<p>Bye
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		<title>by: chris bush</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-4176</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nice one for getting Julie to your next event...

Really wish i could go, but, we moved to Toronto at christmas :( Gonna hawk it to a few friends tho :D

You guys rock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one for getting Julie to your next event&#8230;</p>
<p>Really wish i could go, but, we moved to Toronto at christmas :( Gonna hawk it to a few friends tho :D</p>
<p>You guys rock!
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		<title>by: morganusvitus</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-3525</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The site looks great ! Thanks for all your help ( past, present and future !)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site looks great ! Thanks for all your help ( past, present and future !)
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		<title>by: Ryan Carson: We Are Doing Something About Diversity &#171; Opportunity Knocks</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-2316</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 03:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] 17th, 2007 &#183; No Comments  Carsonified! » Blog Archive » Diversity - The real issues and what we’re doing aboutit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 17th, 2007 &middot; No Comments  Carsonified! » Blog Archive » Diversity - The real issues and what we’re doing aboutit [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Allen Stern</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-1934</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My hope is that conferences (all, not just this one), start to show a freshness in their speakers. I know conferences want the big names, but at the same time, there are loads of new startups and developers and bloggers and designers, etc. who can offer new perspectives.

Ryan, I have always been amazed at how well you do things. I think this post shows how much time and effort you put into the speaker lineup. I think you went above and beyond the call of duty. Hats off to you and the whole CS team. Can't wait to FOOA, and hopefully FOWA NYC this Sept!

Of course I understand that everyone wants to meet/listen to the Mickey Mantle's of the web, not the newbies. Tickets go quicker for the Mickey's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hope is that conferences (all, not just this one), start to show a freshness in their speakers. I know conferences want the big names, but at the same time, there are loads of new startups and developers and bloggers and designers, etc. who can offer new perspectives.</p>
<p>Ryan, I have always been amazed at how well you do things. I think this post shows how much time and effort you put into the speaker lineup. I think you went above and beyond the call of duty. Hats off to you and the whole CS team. Can&#8217;t wait to FOOA, and hopefully FOWA NYC this Sept!</p>
<p>Of course I understand that everyone wants to meet/listen to the Mickey Mantle&#8217;s of the web, not the newbies. Tickets go quicker for the Mickey&#8217;s.
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		<title>by: links for 2007-02-27 at Ejovi Nuwere</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-1905</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-1905</guid>
					<description>[...] Carsonified! » Blog Archive » Diversity - The real issues and what we’re doing about it Everyone is talking about the diversity of conferences and the tech industry. This is old news to anyone that is actually a minority in technology. We&#8217;ve known about the lack of diversity in technology for a good 10-15 years. Welcome to the party. (tags: diversity technology conferences) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Carsonified! » Blog Archive » Diversity - The real issues and what we’re doing about it Everyone is talking about the diversity of conferences and the tech industry. This is old news to anyone that is actually a minority in technology. We&#8217;ve known about the lack of diversity in technology for a good 10-15 years. Welcome to the party. (tags: diversity technology conferences) [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: John</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-1902</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Just as an aside, I hope you get a chance to sit with a blind or partially sighted person while they navigate your site with a screen reader (with the volume on so you can hear it too).  I would say it is a real eye-opener, but that is obviously not the right word. It is however a GREAT experience for any designer, and while usually embarrassing and humbling, the first time, very interesting. I was lucky enough to have a very helpful person go through a site with me, it made a big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as an aside, I hope you get a chance to sit with a blind or partially sighted person while they navigate your site with a screen reader (with the volume on so you can hear it too).  I would say it is a real eye-opener, but that is obviously not the right word. It is however a GREAT experience for any designer, and while usually embarrassing and humbling, the first time, very interesting. I was lucky enough to have a very helpful person go through a site with me, it made a big difference.
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		<title>by: Meriblog: Meri Williams&#8217; Weblog &#187; links for 2007-02-27</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-1899</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-1899</guid>
					<description>[...] Carsonified! » Blog Archive » Diversity - The real issues and what we’re doing about it I think the CarsonSystems folks are good people and I&#8217;m glad to see them rising to this challenge in a positive way. Might even submit a proposal, although most of my expertise is in management rather than specifically web app development&#8230; (tags: conferences diversity gender women speakers selection changes support) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Carsonified! » Blog Archive » Diversity - The real issues and what we’re doing about it I think the CarsonSystems folks are good people and I&#8217;m glad to see them rising to this challenge in a positive way. Might even submit a proposal, although most of my expertise is in management rather than specifically web app development&#8230; (tags: conferences diversity gender women speakers selection changes support) [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Alison</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-1889</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I had a great conversation last night with two very talented female developers. We agreed that one of the major problems with getting more women on stage is that women often don’t promote themselves to conference organisers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This sample set of two plus your sweeping generalization, coupled with Matthew Pinnell's comment regarding how woman just "get on with it" is really quite amazing.

In between saying "you're right we need more women" and saying "sure women, come on out and show yourselves if I don't find you" you manage to get out of your own conference shortcoming by saying "hey women, you're not aggressive enough with self promotion, better get on that."  Talk about insult to injury.

I'm not hearing reasons as to why more women aren't appearing at technology conferences, and creative conferences, I'm hearing excuses.  Some of these excuses I might point out,  are well, offensive.  

If you can't find women speakers then you're not looking hard enough, say that, don't say that we woman don't work hard enough making ourselves known to you, we aren't hiding under rocks or pushing back against your advances - you're not looking.  Say "sorry we didn't look, we're going to look harder next time and make more of an effort, women are an active part of the arts and technology community and have something to say."  Then after you've looked, (for more than three) you can write about how all the women you contacted said they didn't want to speak because we are all inherently not self promoters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I had a great conversation last night with two very talented female developers. We agreed that one of the major problems with getting more women on stage is that women often don’t promote themselves to conference organisers.</p></blockquote>
<p>This sample set of two plus your sweeping generalization, coupled with Matthew Pinnell&#8217;s comment regarding how woman just &#8220;get on with it&#8221; is really quite amazing.</p>
<p>In between saying &#8220;you&#8217;re right we need more women&#8221; and saying &#8220;sure women, come on out and show yourselves if I don&#8217;t find you&#8221; you manage to get out of your own conference shortcoming by saying &#8220;hey women, you&#8217;re not aggressive enough with self promotion, better get on that.&#8221;  Talk about insult to injury.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not hearing reasons as to why more women aren&#8217;t appearing at technology conferences, and creative conferences, I&#8217;m hearing excuses.  Some of these excuses I might point out,  are well, offensive.  </p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t find women speakers then you&#8217;re not looking hard enough, say that, don&#8217;t say that we woman don&#8217;t work hard enough making ourselves known to you, we aren&#8217;t hiding under rocks or pushing back against your advances - you&#8217;re not looking.  Say &#8220;sorry we didn&#8217;t look, we&#8217;re going to look harder next time and make more of an effort, women are an active part of the arts and technology community and have something to say.&#8221;  Then after you&#8217;ve looked, (for more than three) you can write about how all the women you contacted said they didn&#8217;t want to speak because we are all inherently not self promoters.
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		<title>by: Jen Bekman</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-1888</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.carsonified.com/misc/women-at-web-conferences#comment-1888</guid>
					<description>Ryan, I am happy that you've made a decision to be pro-active. It's worth noting that this issue came up in the Fall and didn't result in any constructive response on your end.

And, actually, yes - you specifically said to me in email "send me your list of ideal speakers and I will have a look." 

You might be inclined to be dismissive of my efforts since I've been such a persistent critic, but it's probably in your best interest to peruse the list I've been developing. It's an excellent resource and it's only going to improve.

Vic, the list is not specifically focused on women in tech and isn't as strong as I want it to be in that category just yet. Women like danah boyd, Caterina Fake, Mena Trott and Meg Hourihan are already included, and we've gotten many suggestions for excellent additions since Kottke put up his post last week. For the time being, the names are listed below in comments. We'll integrate those suggestions into the main list in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, I am happy that you&#8217;ve made a decision to be pro-active. It&#8217;s worth noting that this issue came up in the Fall and didn&#8217;t result in any constructive response on your end.</p>
<p>And, actually, yes - you specifically said to me in email &#8220;send me your list of ideal speakers and I will have a look.&#8221; </p>
<p>You might be inclined to be dismissive of my efforts since I&#8217;ve been such a persistent critic, but it&#8217;s probably in your best interest to peruse the list I&#8217;ve been developing. It&#8217;s an excellent resource and it&#8217;s only going to improve.</p>
<p>Vic, the list is not specifically focused on women in tech and isn&#8217;t as strong as I want it to be in that category just yet. Women like danah boyd, Caterina Fake, Mena Trott and Meg Hourihan are already included, and we&#8217;ve gotten many suggestions for excellent additions since Kottke put up his post last week. For the time being, the names are listed below in comments. We&#8217;ll integrate those suggestions into the main list in the near future.
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