Comments on: How we’re doing with our outsourced development team http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team We love the web! Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:01:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Michael Cant http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-15680 Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:22:07 +0000 http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-15680 Wow, I am just reading this string now and it is amazing to see the range of views and experiences with offshoring. In my past corp life, we offshored a big piece of marketing. In our current start-up, we have chosen to outsource as much as we can for two reasons: 1. to get the best expertise globally (that's the biggest reason, which includes the quality of service), and 2. the lowest possible cost. All of our partners are very small companies. In fact, when we looked at global best, the larger co's worldwide didn't seem to be strong enough, if you ignored scale. We have been nothing but extraordinarily satisfied with capabilities being delivered from Romania, testing in India, creative and early innovation elements in North America. Lots more we plan to do. Global sourcing is, in my experience, the right way to go and best for everyone, as long as it is done right. Just a few cents worth. M www.riseofthelittleguy.com Wow, I am just reading this string now and it is amazing to see the range of views and experiences with offshoring.

In my past corp life, we offshored a big piece of marketing. In our current start-up, we have chosen to outsource as much as we can for two reasons: 1. to get the best expertise globally (that’s the biggest reason, which includes the quality of service), and 2. the lowest possible cost. All of our partners are very small companies. In fact, when we looked at global best, the larger co’s worldwide didn’t seem to be strong enough, if you ignored scale.

We have been nothing but extraordinarily satisfied with capabilities being delivered from Romania, testing in India, creative and early innovation elements in North America. Lots more we plan to do. Global sourcing is, in my experience, the right way to go and best for everyone, as long as it is done right.

Just a few cents worth.

M
www.riseofthelittleguy.com

]]> by: bisi http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14672 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:08:28 +0000 http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14672 Heather - Contracts dont work when you outsource because you can't enforce them . It is risky to outsource but even big fortune 500 companies outsource jobs as delicate as credit card customer support. You can hire people locally and they will still steal from you . People still everyday, it does not matter where they are . Even if someone stills you app they can't do much with it because the reason why the app succeeds is because of a combination of business skills . After all when you launch the app someone can clone it the next day . Google bought youtube because even though they have billions of dollars google video could not match youtube . Lots of companies acquire other companies because they know that just cloning or creating the software from scratch wont make them successful. You can get a clone of myspace from phpfox.com but that does not mean you will be as successful as myspace . Anyway I hope you get the gist !!! Heather - Contracts dont work when you outsource because you can’t enforce them . It is risky to outsource but even big fortune 500 companies outsource jobs as delicate as credit card customer support. You can hire people locally and they will still steal from you . People still everyday, it does not matter where they are .
Even if someone stills you app they can’t do much with it because the reason why the app succeeds is because of a combination of business skills . After all when you launch the app someone can clone it the next day .
Google bought youtube because even though they have billions of dollars google video could not match youtube . Lots of companies acquire other companies because they know that just cloning or creating the software from scratch wont make them successful.
You can get a clone of myspace from phpfox.com but that does not mean you will be as successful as myspace .
Anyway I hope you get the gist !!!

]]> by: Heather http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14636 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:40:52 +0000 http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14636 Ryan, can I ask you what legal contract you have in place with your people in Russia? One of the risks of outsourcing your development is that the developer could make life difficult for you in that 1) they could steal your property (code/app/design) and sell it to someone else or 2) they could sabotage (take offline, corrupt data) your site if there is some dispute. How did you protect yourself? Or do you just trust they like google will "do no evil". Ryan,

can I ask you what legal contract you have in place with your people in Russia?

One of the risks of outsourcing your development is that the developer could make life difficult for you in that
1) they could steal your property (code/app/design) and sell it to someone else or
2) they could sabotage (take offline, corrupt data) your site if there is some dispute.

How did you protect yourself? Or do you just trust they like google will “do no evil”.

]]> by: Michael T. Halligan http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14437 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:21:08 +0000 http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14437 Nathan, How would you go about checking that your internal source code is secure, and "professional"? The same way you'd do it for an outsourced team. Third party code-review and security audits. Michael Nathan,

How would you go about checking that your internal source code is secure, and “professional”?

The same way you’d do it for an outsourced team. Third party code-review and security audits.

Michael

]]> by: Ryan Carson http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14377 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:16:25 +0000 http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14377 @Everyone: Thanks for all the support - really appreciate it! @Nathan: It's important to check in on the developers, use the code, and occasionally have a peak at the code @Everyone: Thanks for all the support - really appreciate it!

@Nathan: It’s important to check in on the developers, use the code, and occasionally have a peak at the code

]]> by: Blake http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14365 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:15:45 +0000 http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14365 Hey Ryan, I met you at SXSW briefly and you were a first class guy. You know you are doing something right when they talk about you. Keep up the solid work. Hey Ryan,
I met you at SXSW briefly and you were a first class guy. You know you are doing something right when they talk about you. Keep up the solid work.

]]> by: Jeff Ward http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14345 Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:44:17 +0000 http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14345 Ryan, About that other post - don't sweat it. You're doing just fine. Really appreciate your blog, man. Jeff Ryan,

About that other post - don’t sweat it. You’re doing just fine. Really appreciate your blog, man.

Jeff

]]> by: Nathan http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14342 Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:23:48 +0000 http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14342 Hi Ryan, A question about outsourcing: How do you verify that the work that's being done is professional work? For example, if I'd like to outsource a project that requires a secure administration tool, how can I tell that it's secure? Hi Ryan,

A question about outsourcing:

How do you verify that the work that’s being done is professional work?

For example, if I’d like to outsource a project that requires a secure administration tool, how can I tell that it’s secure?

]]> by: Tamlyn Rhodes http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14333 Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:29:49 +0000 http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14333 I do sometimes wonder why anyone hires me. I'm based in London and several of my US clients pay way over the odds with the pound so strong and the dollar so weak. They could get it so much cheaper elsewhere: india, russia, wherever. Still, I'm not complaining! Looking forward to helping out with FOWA in october (emailed Mel this morning). I do sometimes wonder why anyone hires me. I’m based in London and several of my US clients pay way over the odds with the pound so strong and the dollar so weak. They could get it so much cheaper elsewhere: india, russia, wherever. Still, I’m not complaining!

Looking forward to helping out with FOWA in october (emailed Mel this morning).

]]> by: Chris http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14332 Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:25:45 +0000 http://www.carsonified.com/misc/how-were-doing-with-our-outsourced-development-team#comment-14332 Wow, what an uncalled for lashing out on the thread that you posted. That's fun reading for a Monday. Glad that things are going well for you with your team. I really am a firm believer in outsourcing, but it is all about the professionalism of the people on both sides of the team. Wow, what an uncalled for lashing out on the thread that you posted. That’s fun reading for a Monday. Glad that things are going well for you with your team. I really am a firm believer in outsourcing, but it is all about the professionalism of the people on both sides of the team.

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