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		<title>by: Carsonified! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Carsonified rebranding process: part 09</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-05#comment-19358</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Too cartoony, but I think we could use the completely hand-drawn approach in some circumstances. In fact, I’ve been thinking that we could always let the public ‘remix’ the logo when it’s completed so that we could have different versions of it on different pages of the site, similar to what MTV did. Could be cool. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Too cartoony, but I think we could use the completely hand-drawn approach in some circumstances. In fact, I’ve been thinking that we could always let the public ‘remix’ the logo when it’s completed so that we could have different versions of it on different pages of the site, similar to what MTV did. Could be cool. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Elliot Jay Stocks</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-05#comment-18395</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey guys, you may now have seen &lt;a href="http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-06" rel="nofollow"&gt;part 6&lt;/a&gt; and I should point out that I'm going to pause work on this particular logo idea for the time being, but I'd still like to address some of the points you've raised. Thanks again for all this!

@ Andrew: I agree. After a few days of reflection, I'm reverting to my original decision to place the swash on the 'n'. It's definitely more interesting and there &lt;em&gt;were&lt;/em&gt; conflicts between the tails of the 'n' and swash on the 'f'.

@ Wez: Like most of the letters, the swash certainly needs neatening up. I feel that way even more now (after a week away) than before!

@ Ollie: Thanks for bringing that up. It's another one to consider.

@ Nick: Wow, that's so interesting! I wasn't aware of that. I really appreciate you letting us know about that - I'm going to discuss this concep with the guys o Monday.

@ Brian: I agree 100% on all tracking issues. These will be tidied up for sure. However, I simply feel that - as with natural writing - not all letters should be joined if there's no natural flow or need for them to do so. Also, the 'fi' &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; joined (hence the ligature).

@ Willie: Well, it has its similarities, as we've been discussing. It's certainly something that we're addressing (possibly even by moving away from this entirely - who knows?).

@ John: I see your points, although I think we're pretty settled on 'Carsonified' now, I'm afraid!

@ Michael Olsen: Yep, another 'c' logo to add to the list! ;)

@ Andy Croll: Great idea! I've been thinking of something similar; the idea of progression (left to right) from 'sketched' to 'finished'. It's not something I've spent too much time on yet but I really like your idea of creating the visual distinction between 'carson' and 'ified'. If we return to this logo, this is definitely a route I'll pursue. Thanks!

@ Matt Munsey: Colour and texture... yes, quite possibly...

@ Bustaa: Hmmm...

@ BradM: This might be something I do after we've come up with the final thing. I'll be the first to admit that my Illustrator skills are way behind my Photoshop skills, so I'll probably have to brush up a bit myself!

@ Jeremy Jarvis: It's a great tool, especially for people - like me - who work primarily in Photoshop. Nice use of text shadows on your site, by the way! :)

@ Martin: Yep, I'm going to give the swash back to the 'n' (see above).

@ Julian Schrader: Agreed!

@ Kevin: Yeah, I like their aesthetic. We've been having a look at their stuff too.

@ G: I think Lisa's already answered your comment pretty well, but I just wanted to clarify that I was under no pressure to post a blog entry / video every day. In fact, I never intended it to be more than a couple per week! It just turned out that I felt I had enough material and ideas I wanted to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, you may now have seen <a href="http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-06" rel="nofollow">part 6</a> and I should point out that I&#8217;m going to pause work on this particular logo idea for the time being, but I&#8217;d still like to address some of the points you&#8217;ve raised. Thanks again for all this!</p>
<p>@ Andrew: I agree. After a few days of reflection, I&#8217;m reverting to my original decision to place the swash on the &#8216;n&#8217;. It&#8217;s definitely more interesting and there <em>were</em> conflicts between the tails of the &#8216;n&#8217; and swash on the &#8216;f&#8217;.</p>
<p>@ Wez: Like most of the letters, the swash certainly needs neatening up. I feel that way even more now (after a week away) than before!</p>
<p>@ Ollie: Thanks for bringing that up. It&#8217;s another one to consider.</p>
<p>@ Nick: Wow, that&#8217;s so interesting! I wasn&#8217;t aware of that. I really appreciate you letting us know about that - I&#8217;m going to discuss this concep with the guys o Monday.</p>
<p>@ Brian: I agree 100% on all tracking issues. These will be tidied up for sure. However, I simply feel that - as with natural writing - not all letters should be joined if there&#8217;s no natural flow or need for them to do so. Also, the &#8216;fi&#8217; <em>is</em> joined (hence the ligature).</p>
<p>@ Willie: Well, it has its similarities, as we&#8217;ve been discussing. It&#8217;s certainly something that we&#8217;re addressing (possibly even by moving away from this entirely - who knows?).</p>
<p>@ John: I see your points, although I think we&#8217;re pretty settled on &#8216;Carsonified&#8217; now, I&#8217;m afraid!</p>
<p>@ Michael Olsen: Yep, another &#8216;c&#8217; logo to add to the list! ;)</p>
<p>@ Andy Croll: Great idea! I&#8217;ve been thinking of something similar; the idea of progression (left to right) from &#8217;sketched&#8217; to &#8216;finished&#8217;. It&#8217;s not something I&#8217;ve spent too much time on yet but I really like your idea of creating the visual distinction between &#8216;carson&#8217; and &#8216;ified&#8217;. If we return to this logo, this is definitely a route I&#8217;ll pursue. Thanks!</p>
<p>@ Matt Munsey: Colour and texture&#8230; yes, quite possibly&#8230;</p>
<p>@ Bustaa: Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>@ BradM: This might be something I do after we&#8217;ve come up with the final thing. I&#8217;ll be the first to admit that my Illustrator skills are way behind my Photoshop skills, so I&#8217;ll probably have to brush up a bit myself!</p>
<p>@ Jeremy Jarvis: It&#8217;s a great tool, especially for people - like me - who work primarily in Photoshop. Nice use of text shadows on your site, by the way! :)</p>
<p>@ Martin: Yep, I&#8217;m going to give the swash back to the &#8216;n&#8217; (see above).</p>
<p>@ Julian Schrader: Agreed!</p>
<p>@ Kevin: Yeah, I like their aesthetic. We&#8217;ve been having a look at their stuff too.</p>
<p>@ G: I think Lisa&#8217;s already answered your comment pretty well, but I just wanted to clarify that I was under no pressure to post a blog entry / video every day. In fact, I never intended it to be more than a couple per week! It just turned out that I felt I had enough material and ideas I wanted to share.
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		<title>by: Lisa Price</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-05#comment-18211</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>hiya - G. Elliot's taking a little holiday in Barcelona at present, so we've come to a natural pause anyway! Hear what you're saying - we certainly won't be revealing everything and at every stage. Elliot is interested in sharing some of the steps in this process as they happened, something which a lot of people go through and who might find useful. We're still a way off the final design - so there's more to share, but the actual logo won't be fully revealed until it's ready to be seen in public :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hiya - G. Elliot&#8217;s taking a little holiday in Barcelona at present, so we&#8217;ve come to a natural pause anyway! Hear what you&#8217;re saying - we certainly won&#8217;t be revealing everything and at every stage. Elliot is interested in sharing some of the steps in this process as they happened, something which a lot of people go through and who might find useful. We&#8217;re still a way off the final design - so there&#8217;s more to share, but the actual logo won&#8217;t be fully revealed until it&#8217;s ready to be seen in public :)
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		<title>by: G.</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-05#comment-18131</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sorry, but I think this is a bit ridiculous. Sharing with your audience is nice, but not daily. You're just putting way too much pressure on yourself with this.  I think you'll regret it afterwards, because you'll realize you haven't taken a) the time to think it through at rest, b) the opportunity to also do really shamefully bad stuff, you would not even dare to show.

Also, having too much response too quick is just bad. Make up your own opinion and come up with a personal and therefore distinctive solution. Come back in a week or two. Meanwhile, work on other things too, to keep your head cool, instead having the constant pressure of 'oh man, I need to post something cool on youtube today, and make sure I'm not ruining my career'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I think this is a bit ridiculous. Sharing with your audience is nice, but not daily. You&#8217;re just putting way too much pressure on yourself with this.  I think you&#8217;ll regret it afterwards, because you&#8217;ll realize you haven&#8217;t taken a) the time to think it through at rest, b) the opportunity to also do really shamefully bad stuff, you would not even dare to show.</p>
<p>Also, having too much response too quick is just bad. Make up your own opinion and come up with a personal and therefore distinctive solution. Come back in a week or two. Meanwhile, work on other things too, to keep your head cool, instead having the constant pressure of &#8216;oh man, I need to post something cool on youtube today, and make sure I&#8217;m not ruining my career&#8217;.
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		<title>by: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-05#comment-17990</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I kinda like the diy/organic feel ala SkinnyCorp logo of your original sketches.

here's their site:
http://www.skinnycorp.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kinda like the diy/organic feel ala SkinnyCorp logo of your original sketches.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s their site:<br />
<a href="http://www.skinnycorp.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.skinnycorp.com</a>
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		<title>by: Julian Schrader</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-05#comment-17755</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Somehow the "n" and the swash look odd for me — overall I think it's quite nice.

However, it's interesting to watch the progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow the &#8220;n&#8221; and the swash look odd for me — overall I think it&#8217;s quite nice.</p>
<p>However, it&#8217;s interesting to watch the progress.
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		<title>by: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-05#comment-17742</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I like the hand drawn look, visible guidelines and the sentiment behind it but by moving the swoosh to the F the logo has lost it's edge for me. It makes the two parts of the word look too unified and bland. In the previous designs the swoosh on the N caught the eye because it wasn't obvious.

Overall, I really like the balancing of the outside C and D curves but the Coke and Carlsberg associations do worry me a little bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the hand drawn look, visible guidelines and the sentiment behind it but by moving the swoosh to the F the logo has lost it&#8217;s edge for me. It makes the two parts of the word look too unified and bland. In the previous designs the swoosh on the N caught the eye because it wasn&#8217;t obvious.</p>
<p>Overall, I really like the balancing of the outside C and D curves but the Coke and Carlsberg associations do worry me a little bit.
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		<title>by: Jeremy Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-05#comment-17719</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The live trace tool in Illustrator is awesome, I only discovered it the other day (never reallly used illustrator before).

It was perfect for converting my sketch into a vectorised version...

http://blog.brightbox.co.uk/posts/the-branding-of-brightbox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The live trace tool in Illustrator is awesome, I only discovered it the other day (never reallly used illustrator before).</p>
<p>It was perfect for converting my sketch into a vectorised version&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.brightbox.co.uk/posts/the-branding-of-brightbox" rel="nofollow">http://blog.brightbox.co.uk/posts/the-branding-of-brightbox</a>
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		<title>by: BradM</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-05#comment-17713</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>At first I didn't like the swoosh on the 'f' but after looking at a few more times, I think it is a better separation of 'carson' from the 'ified'. Just in case you're keeping score, I thought I'd mention it.
Lastly, I'm not sure if you thought of this or not, but I for one suck at Illustrator and would be very interested in seeing a 'video' segment on you actually making the logo (almost tutorial if you will but not exactly) rather than just seeing the final product. A kind of 'the making of..." kind of video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I didn&#8217;t like the swoosh on the &#8216;f&#8217; but after looking at a few more times, I think it is a better separation of &#8216;carson&#8217; from the &#8216;ified&#8217;. Just in case you&#8217;re keeping score, I thought I&#8217;d mention it.<br />
Lastly, I&#8217;m not sure if you thought of this or not, but I for one suck at Illustrator and would be very interested in seeing a &#8216;video&#8217; segment on you actually making the logo (almost tutorial if you will but not exactly) rather than just seeing the final product. A kind of &#8216;the making of&#8230;&#8221; kind of video.
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		<title>by: bustaa</title>
		<link>http://www.carsonified.com/carsonified/carsonified-rebranding-process-part-05#comment-17707</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>coca-cola?

...lame...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coca-cola?</p>
<p>&#8230;lame&#8230;
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